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Type of bind: Paperback
Dewey Decimal Number: 485
EAN num: 9780521698511
ISBN number: 0521698510
Label: Cambridge University Press
Manufacturer: Cambridge University Press
Quantity: 1
Page Count: 318
Printing Date: July 30, 2007
Publishing house: Cambridge University Press
Sale Popularity Level: 268616
Studio: Cambridge University Press




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First published in 1978, Reading Greek has become a best-selling one-year introductory course in ancient Greek for students and adults. It combines the best of modern and traditional language-learning techniques and is used widely in schools, summer schools and universities across the world. It has also been translated into several foreign languages. This volume contains a narrative adapted entirely from ancient authors, including Herodotus, Euripides, Aristophanes and Demosthenes, in order to encourage students quickly to develop their reading skills. Generous support is provided with vocabulary. At the same time, through the texts and numerous illustrations, students will receive a good introduction to Greek culture, and especially that of Classical Athens. The accompanying Grammar and Exercises volume provides full grammatical support together with numerous exercises at different levels, Greek-English and English-Greek vocabularies, a substantial reference grammar and language surveys.



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Rated by buyers 4 out of 5 stars - Very good
This review is from the point of view of an adult self learner.

WHAT IT IS
This book is part of a three-book set, which includes:
1. RG: Grammar and Exercises
2. RG: Text and Vocabulary
3. RG: An Independent Study Guide ( this book)

Think of the set as one book broken up into three parts, with the Greek practice text from every chapter in book 1, the grammar and exercises in every chapter in book 2, the answers to exercises in book 3. Nutty, but it works.

#1 Short passages of Greek text (with vocab lists at the end of each passage). Early passages are modern Dick-and-Jane "easy Greek" written especially to complement parallel sections of Grammar; later passages are simplified (and further on, not so simplified) passages from ancient texts.

#2 Grammar theory, forms, and exercises all keyed to parallel passages in the Text. So when you study middle voice verbs in Grammar, you read the accompanying passage in Text, and see how that form works in real Greek sentences.

#3 A. Translations of Text #1.
B. Answers to exercises in Grammar #2.
C. Hints and insights.

WHICH TO BUY?
This is an integrated set whose whole is much greater than the sum of the parts. You will want all three books. The TEXT complements the grammar, the GRAMMAR makes much much more sense when supported by the text readings. The answers to exercise in the STUDY GUIDE will show you stuff you missed learning--but you won't find that out unless you have book #3 to check your answers.

[There are other JACT RG books with short Greek passages from ancient texts. You don't need them now (or ever, IMHO Loebs are better).]

BAD STUFF
1. In my experience this is NOT a good set for absolute newbies. It was originally designed in the 1970s when students started Greek after a year of Latin, and thus already understood inflected grammars. If you don't understand inflected grammars already, you may get lost. I did. I tried (the old version) of RG as my very first learn-Greek-on-your-own book about 18 months ago, and was immediately lost.

I'd suggest starting with Dobson's Learn New Testament Greek, them moving on to RG.

2. Vocabulary selection is excellent, Attic prose wise, but you're forced to make your own flip cards or memorization list. Because Greek diacriticals are a bitch, making your own computerized flip cards is a major pain. In the internet age, JACT really should have vocab flip cards at their web site.

3. Ancient Greek is still hard.

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GOOD STUFF
Since giving up on RG the very first time I've been through Dobson's Learn NT Greek and memorized the forms in Mounce's Basics of Biblical Greek Grammar. Now that I've come back to RG it makes much much more sense, and it seems to me the most excellent book.

1. Simple Readings Cement Forms.
After memorizing all the verb forms in Mounce, I found struggling with Greek text a frustration--passing each word through a memorized translation table. RG's solution is to teach your brain to bypass the form tables and recognize word endings-meanings directly. The reading for the Present Tense chapter is full of simple sentences like: "Dikaiopolis walks on the ship." "Then the captain walks on the ship." and "The sailors walk on the ship." - different word endings in each case. Over and over. Repetition, particularly repetition in the context of a memorable little story, cements recognition. (Of course you do still have to memorize the forms.)

This is a whole additional layer of learning that you simply will not get from table-Greek books like Mounce, or tables-and-rules books like Mastronarde's Introduction to Attic Greek.

2. Sentence Structure.
It's not obvious till you've struggled a while, but ancient Greek has a layer of complexity on top of the alphabet and words. English brains extract word function--subject, verb, direct object--from word order; Greek brains extracted subject, verb, direct object from word endings; Greek sentences used word-order for other purposes. You've got to train you brain to process sentences a whole different way. Again, practice is the key. An RG has lots and lots and lots of text to help.

By the time I was through RG chapter 7, I could pick up Loeb's Xenophon's Anabasis and quickly recognize (via case endings) the structure of each sentence (though of course my vocab still wasn't up to an unassisted reading). This was very exciting.

Again, this is a whole additional layer of learning that you will not get from table-Greek books like Mounce, or tables-and-rules books like Mastronarde .

3. Learn By Reading; Lots Of Readings.
RG is not a tables-and-rules book with an expanded Examples section. It is an integrated system of teaching ancient Greek through a graded series of long and ... Read More



Rated by buyers 4 out of 5 stars - updated Reading Greek a huge improvement
The quick answer to the question of whether the updated text is worth it is yes. They've made a number of important changes (e.g. printing declensions top to bottom rather than side to side, which may sound trivial but wasn't) and backing away slightly from the "just letting it wash over you" approach; they now specify particular things, like verb conjugations, that you should know by heart at various points along the way.

I used the old Reading Greek for a few years when I very first started teaching in college. There are lots of things I liked about it, and lots of things (still) I would change. The basic practical problem is that there is simply too much Greek reading. I know it seems perverse to complain about that, but the fact is that there's really only time in class to cover about half the reading if you're going to introduce or explain grammar, to say nothing of tangential cultural and literary issues.

Another problem is that their proposed schedule (given at the beginning of each unit) is unrealistic (at least if you're asking students to memorize as well as read the Greek) and assumes a longer academic year than we have in the US.

On top of that they have retained the switch, 3/4 of the way through the course, to speech about Neaira. I understand the cultural fascination, the insights into the role of women, etc., but the fact of the matter is that Greek oratory simply gets you down, at least in a very first year course. The readings up to that point, based on comedy, are by contrast wonderful; the main reason in fact that I'm considering the book again.

But it doesn't seem to fit the needs of college teaching in America as well as I had hoped, and I'm simply not sure yet if the benefits oughtweigh the problems. It would be interesting to see posts from people who have used it (new or old) successfully.

I should say, by the way, that for teaching oneself Greek privately I would recommend these books unreservedly; especially if you can get hold of the old tape with the introduction to the sounds of Greek and cheerful readings of the texts by Cambridge undergraduates. Totally British, rather than Greek, but gives you as sense of how alive the language can be.





Rated by buyers 5 out of 5 stars - I love the Reading Greek course!
After struggling with another text, I purchased the two updated JACT books in the Reading Greek course: "Grammar and Exercises", and "Text and Vocabulary". Whereas before I made little progress, I began reading basic sentences the very first day with Reading Greek. I am only a beginner, mind, so I can't compare the various books on the market, but I can say that I won't need to buy any other classical Greek language books until I've finished these. I highly recommend them.



Rated by buyers 4 out of 5 stars - Help!



Will some public-spirited & knowledgeable person please review this new edition of RG? I have no idea whether I should buy this expensive new set (with the reader) or "An Idependent Study Guide to Reading Greek". What are the pros & cons? And is it really any better than the 1st edition of RG?? Thanks!



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